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		<title>By: Work Coach Cafe</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2011 19:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ruru</title>
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		<dc:creator>ruru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 00:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this advice! I&#039;ve been feeling really low lately because it&#039;s hard to look for a RN job without exp. The nursing director said I &quot;might start&quot; within the week or so but it&#039;s almost two weeks! I guess this is the &quot;or so...&quot; she&#039;s talking about. It IS hard to keep my chin up, but knowing that there are people out there who share my struggles is somewhat comforting! Thank you and good luck to everyone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this advice! I&#8217;ve been feeling really low lately because it&#8217;s hard to look for a RN job without exp. The nursing director said I &#8220;might start&#8221; within the week or so but it&#8217;s almost two weeks! I guess this is the &#8220;or so&#8230;&#8221; she&#8217;s talking about. It IS hard to keep my chin up, but knowing that there are people out there who share my struggles is somewhat comforting! Thank you and good luck to everyone!</p>
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		<title>By: Ronnie Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronnie Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2011 02:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi again Mack! Sorry for the delay. I&#039;m on vacation but trying to keep up. ;-)

I loved your response.  Hope it&#039;s ok, but I think I&#039;m going to use a some of it (with credit to you of course) for my post this week. You said so much better than I could. I hope some smart employer snaps you up soon...and I hope it&#039;s a prefect match. ;-) 

Good luck, Mack!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi again Mack! Sorry for the delay. I&#8217;m on vacation but trying to keep up. <img src='http://www.workcoachcafe.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I loved your response.  Hope it&#8217;s ok, but I think I&#8217;m going to use a some of it (with credit to you of course) for my post this week. You said so much better than I could. I hope some smart employer snaps you up soon&#8230;and I hope it&#8217;s a prefect match. <img src='http://www.workcoachcafe.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Good luck, Mack!</p>
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		<title>By: Mack Simmons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mack Simmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Ronnie Ann. It can be tough, especially on days when there is no activity (and this week, after weeks of interviews and calls, has been far too quiet for my taste). In fact, that&#039;s when the job hunt takes a real toll on the psyche; as much as you don&#039;t want bad news, you prefer to get some word on where you stand than none at all. But in reality, no news is better than bad news or news of stalled hiring processes because something could be happening that might be in your favor.

The uncertainty of the hiring process is one reason why I&#039;ve long ago adopted an owner&#039;s mentality. That is, instead of looking at this as  the desperate attempt to get some company to hire me for a job, it is a chance to match up my talents, skills and ambitions to a firm that wants to partner with me for a time (and is deserving of them). In many ways, it is adaption to economic reality: No job is permanent; no employer is loyal (if this was ever the case); and you are merely a full-time equivalent whose talents are only as valuable to the firm as they fit into its mission, goals and financial condition. 

This reality is as true for each of us as it is for the companies on the other side of the transaction: If an organization doesn&#039;t provide you with what you desire for your life (from benefits to career success), then you shouldn&#039;t stay with them. And if its hiring process is dysfunctional, you don&#039;t want to work for it in the first place. A smooth hiring process isn&#039;t indicative of how well an organization functions; but a dysfunctional hiring process is clearly a sign of worse to come. And in a couple of the bridesmaid situations, I can say I have dodged a couple of bullets (even if I would love to just have a job now).

Such a mindset isn&#039;t comforting, especially when you need the check to pay the bills; but at least it is clearheaded and allows you to stop falling in love with every opening for which you apply. And while it doesn&#039;t keep me from falling into occasional bouts of despair, I can at least keep my head above water. Or at least try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Ronnie Ann. It can be tough, especially on days when there is no activity (and this week, after weeks of interviews and calls, has been far too quiet for my taste). In fact, that&#8217;s when the job hunt takes a real toll on the psyche; as much as you don&#8217;t want bad news, you prefer to get some word on where you stand than none at all. But in reality, no news is better than bad news or news of stalled hiring processes because something could be happening that might be in your favor.</p>
<p>The uncertainty of the hiring process is one reason why I&#8217;ve long ago adopted an owner&#8217;s mentality. That is, instead of looking at this as  the desperate attempt to get some company to hire me for a job, it is a chance to match up my talents, skills and ambitions to a firm that wants to partner with me for a time (and is deserving of them). In many ways, it is adaption to economic reality: No job is permanent; no employer is loyal (if this was ever the case); and you are merely a full-time equivalent whose talents are only as valuable to the firm as they fit into its mission, goals and financial condition. </p>
<p>This reality is as true for each of us as it is for the companies on the other side of the transaction: If an organization doesn&#8217;t provide you with what you desire for your life (from benefits to career success), then you shouldn&#8217;t stay with them. And if its hiring process is dysfunctional, you don&#8217;t want to work for it in the first place. A smooth hiring process isn&#8217;t indicative of how well an organization functions; but a dysfunctional hiring process is clearly a sign of worse to come. And in a couple of the bridesmaid situations, I can say I have dodged a couple of bullets (even if I would love to just have a job now).</p>
<p>Such a mindset isn&#8217;t comforting, especially when you need the check to pay the bills; but at least it is clearheaded and allows you to stop falling in love with every opening for which you apply. And while it doesn&#8217;t keep me from falling into occasional bouts of despair, I can at least keep my head above water. Or at least try.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronnie Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronnie Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 19:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mack!

Thanks for your comment. Really appreciate hearing from folks going through the hunt who seem to have stayed at least mostly sane. ;-) And especially good (if good is the right word) that you have a model from your own life of the dry spell ending. Hope you get to be the bride SOON. 

Fingers, arms, and eyes crossed for you to get the reward of finding a GREAT match. Best of luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mack!</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment. Really appreciate hearing from folks going through the hunt who seem to have stayed at least mostly sane. <img src='http://www.workcoachcafe.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  And especially good (if good is the right word) that you have a model from your own life of the dry spell ending. Hope you get to be the bride SOON. </p>
<p>Fingers, arms, and eyes crossed for you to get the reward of finding a GREAT match. Best of luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Mack Simmons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mack Simmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2011 19:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could use all of John&#039;s tips -- and the pick-me-ups. I&#039;ve been laid off from a job I really enjoyed (and did well at) since January. While I&#039;ve made it to the final interview stage for twelve gigs in that time, I&#039;ve either been the bridesmaid for ten of those jobs; one job is currently on hold while the organization figures out a way to get a budget for two positions (instead of one), and another is on hold until a new hiring manager is put into place. Between coming in second place in most of these jobs and being in limbo for the rest, it&#039;s just a drag on the psyche. (The process is also a reminder of why so many stay in jobs even if they despise their managers, their colleagues, even the work itself; job hunting sucks.)

I always have to keep in mind that I&#039;ve been through this before for an 18-month spell, and that I&#039;ve at least gotten to the final round for some of the jobs for which I&#039;m applying. And that in each situation, there was probably someone who is applying for the same job who has gone through the same tiresome process for a longer time than I -- and he or she may have been due for their &quot;yes&quot;. Doesn&#039;t always make me feel better, but it keeps things in perspective. 

It&#039;s just nice to someone see their hard work of finding a job rewarded with one. Hopefully everyone else will see the same reward. Especially me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could use all of John&#8217;s tips &#8212; and the pick-me-ups. I&#8217;ve been laid off from a job I really enjoyed (and did well at) since January. While I&#8217;ve made it to the final interview stage for twelve gigs in that time, I&#8217;ve either been the bridesmaid for ten of those jobs; one job is currently on hold while the organization figures out a way to get a budget for two positions (instead of one), and another is on hold until a new hiring manager is put into place. Between coming in second place in most of these jobs and being in limbo for the rest, it&#8217;s just a drag on the psyche. (The process is also a reminder of why so many stay in jobs even if they despise their managers, their colleagues, even the work itself; job hunting sucks.)</p>
<p>I always have to keep in mind that I&#8217;ve been through this before for an 18-month spell, and that I&#8217;ve at least gotten to the final round for some of the jobs for which I&#8217;m applying. And that in each situation, there was probably someone who is applying for the same job who has gone through the same tiresome process for a longer time than I &#8212; and he or she may have been due for their &#8220;yes&#8221;. Doesn&#8217;t always make me feel better, but it keeps things in perspective. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s just nice to someone see their hard work of finding a job rewarded with one. Hopefully everyone else will see the same reward. Especially me.</p>
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		<title>By: A post six months in the making &#124; Always on Deadline</title>
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		<dc:creator>A post six months in the making &#124; Always on Deadline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 00:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Just the links &#124; Always on Deadline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just the links &#124; Always on Deadline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 00:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 15 Job-Search Tips From a Guy Who Just Got a Job (Work Coach Cafe) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ronnie Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronnie Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 17:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Jonny:&lt;/strong&gt; I love it. Going to have to use that in a post! &quot;Interviews aren’t killing me here… WAITING is.&quot; Too true. ;-)

And love what your friend said too &lt;strong&gt;Sandie&lt;/strong&gt; “I don’t want to be a professional interviewee, I want a job.” Man how that nails it!

Great discussion. Thank you so much. I know it helps others to read what you said...not to mention how good it feels just to say these things &quot;out loud&quot;.  Nice tips about not turning &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.workcoachcafe.com/2009/03/16/i-got-the-post-interview-temporary-ocd-blues/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Looney Tunes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;. In the end, this is about you and what you deserve.

I wish you great luck finding jobs you love - or at least like a lot and pays the rent. ;-)

~ Ronnie Ann</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Jonny:</strong> I love it. Going to have to use that in a post! &#8220;Interviews aren’t killing me here… WAITING is.&#8221; Too true. <img src='http://www.workcoachcafe.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And love what your friend said too <strong>Sandie</strong> “I don’t want to be a professional interviewee, I want a job.” Man how that nails it!</p>
<p>Great discussion. Thank you so much. I know it helps others to read what you said&#8230;not to mention how good it feels just to say these things &#8220;out loud&#8221;.  Nice tips about not turning <strong><a href="http://www.workcoachcafe.com/2009/03/16/i-got-the-post-interview-temporary-ocd-blues/" rel="nofollow">Looney Tunes</a></strong>. In the end, this is about you and what you deserve.</p>
<p>I wish you great luck finding jobs you love &#8211; or at least like a lot and pays the rent. <img src='http://www.workcoachcafe.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>~ Ronnie Ann</p>
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		<title>By: Jonny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 10:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Resilience&quot;... I think Sandie brought up a very valid point.  We all need to accept that the psychology of HR has changed.  There no longer is a shortage of talent out there.  In fact, there is an over abundance of talent out there we are all competing against.  HR no longer cries for not being able to fill a position.  This was the case when the economy was booming, jobs were being created left and right, and people were not looking for jobs.  But this is not the case now.  Realize it and accept it... the hiring process will get more frustrating; not less.  And I suspect that this is a great way to eliminate impatient people among us who will show lack of patience, endurance, and professionalism.  I assume some job applicants are unknowingly becoming a pest to HR with incessant emails and phone calls.  People are people... you will only end up alienating and annoying them... not endearing yourself to them.  Clearly, some of us are realizing that they cannot endure the torture and cannot go the distance.  I also suspect that HR is becoming quite adept at becoming sadists as well.  ;o)  It is discouraging at times... no argument there.  But you cannot turn into a crazy before HR&#039;s and the company&#039;s eyes either.  Be confident, professional, and resilient... and keep yourself busy with the act of looking for jobs always.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Resilience&#8221;&#8230; I think Sandie brought up a very valid point.  We all need to accept that the psychology of HR has changed.  There no longer is a shortage of talent out there.  In fact, there is an over abundance of talent out there we are all competing against.  HR no longer cries for not being able to fill a position.  This was the case when the economy was booming, jobs were being created left and right, and people were not looking for jobs.  But this is not the case now.  Realize it and accept it&#8230; the hiring process will get more frustrating; not less.  And I suspect that this is a great way to eliminate impatient people among us who will show lack of patience, endurance, and professionalism.  I assume some job applicants are unknowingly becoming a pest to HR with incessant emails and phone calls.  People are people&#8230; you will only end up alienating and annoying them&#8230; not endearing yourself to them.  Clearly, some of us are realizing that they cannot endure the torture and cannot go the distance.  I also suspect that HR is becoming quite adept at becoming sadists as well.  ;o)  It is discouraging at times&#8230; no argument there.  But you cannot turn into a crazy before HR&#8217;s and the company&#8217;s eyes either.  Be confident, professional, and resilient&#8230; and keep yourself busy with the act of looking for jobs always.</p>
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